All appeared well as the Romans had the “pacification” of modern-day Germany underway in A.D. 9. The early Principate Roman Army had driven the “barbarians” before it, as it had done many times before. Then revolt stirred and Rome relied on a charismatic German prince, raised as a hostage and then proven auxiliary commander in Roman civilization, to help reaffirm the Empire’s authority in his country…
Rendering of an Early Principate Legion in defensive formation
Soldier of the 19th Legion which fought at Teutoburg, as rendered by Peter Dennis
Teutoburg Forest today.
Inside the forest today.
Germans emerging from the woods.
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I hesitate to post this, because I have issues with this anthropologist’s description of the actual battle, but he offers a far more detailed explanation and look at German culture and motivations at that time. Read for the anthropology!
The image of the samurai is almost synonymous with Japanese history for many people: the honor-bound, bow and sword wielding individual warrior on horseback. It could have been very different. When the early Japanese Court was trying hard to adopt the massed infantry tactics of China, a series of defeats to an impressive “barbarian” guerrilla warrior from the north changed the military culture of the country.
Monument to the legendary “Emishi” warrior Aterui in Hirakata, Japan.
Map of 8th century Japan. Territory dominated by the imperial Japanese is in red. “Silla” is the kingdom in Southern Korea Japan attempted to invade late in the previous century.
Medieval Japan as it looked later. Provinces 2 and 3 here are Mutsu and Dewa, the large sections of “frontier” country that was wrested from the Emishi and loosely organized even centuries later.
The famous general Sakanoue Tamuramaro—the first successful man to wear the title sei-tai-shogun, or “great general who subdues the barbarians,” later shortened in popular history to “Shogun.” This is a fanciful depiction of him from centuries later.
Wooden model of Aterui’s head from a Japanese shrine. This isn’t notable for how Aterui looked (there are no contemporary depictions of him that survive.) This is significant for how the Japanese people wanted to remember him: the embodiment of fierce defiance.
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The OG—Sansom wrote a comprehensive history of Japan that is readable and scholarly at the same time, while still respected many decades later. Volume 2 is even better, although it covers events centuries later than those of this podcast.
When my own history professor assigned this way back when, she made clear it was a “counter” narrative to a lot of how Japanese history had been interpreted for many decades. It’s a great companion source to something like Sansom.
Part 3 of a series on historical events that are widely overrated in aspects of their impact and yet actually underrated and deeply misunderstood. The decisive victory Hannibal Barca won over the Roman Republic at Cannae in 216 BC was the crown jewel of his many achievements, and has been studied so often that perhaps it’s now cliché. I retell the story to focus on why it was so significant in that war and why it still has lessons for us, despite what modern scholars might think.
Battle starting positions and progress to double envelopment.
Celtiberian warriors
Carthaginian infantryman with war elephant in the background.
Spanish cavalry– underrated key players for Hannibal.
Model rendering of the famous Numidian cavalryman.
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Carthage was the natural rival to Rome’s power. Carthage was a maritime empire centered in modern day Tunisia and covering North Africa.
Carthage had an excellent navy. Rome was the major power in Italy after driving out the Celtic Gauls.
1st Punic War: Rome defeated Carthage under general Hamilcar and this established Rome as the front runner over Carthage. Both were in competition to colonize Spain.
Hannibal is Hamilcar’s son.
Rome had every advantage over Carthage: more troops, maniple legion.
Carthage had more money, but that was it.
Hannibal came as close to defeating Rome as anyone did in the first 1000 years of Roman history.
Hannibal is known as the dude who could win battles, not the war. Also known for war elephants that he brought across 2 major mountain ranges.
History sidenote: there’s a movement to tell the peoples’ history, but that often includes devaluing and degrading the rulers and great men who were major players in history.
Anachronism: you have to try to put your bias aside and not judge people of the past according to everything civilization has come to develop inbetween.
SPQR by Mary Beard – one of the prominent modern Roman history scholars, guilty of anachronism.
Cannae was Hannibal’s greatest victory and part of a great test to Roman civilization.
Hannibal crosses the Pyrenes and Alps to take the Romans by surprise.
He picked up the Gauls and fought the first battle of Trebbia – where/after which most of the elephants die.
Hannibal’s strategy was to pry away Rome’s allies, but he misread the situation; the allies never lost their faith in Rome.
In Rome, 2 consuls raise biggest Roman army ever assembled: 8 legions + allies (85,000 guys).
Hannibal had 50,000 guys: Celts, Spaniards, African levies.
Hannibal was outnumbered and Roman troops were superior.
However, Hannibal had the better cavalry and he drew up a clever battle plan.
During the Battle of Cannae, the sun was in the Roman army’s eyes and dust was blowing too.
Hannibal had set up his army with the Celts + Spaniards in the center, they were the worst men in the group and historically, you would put your best guys in the center.
While the Celts were very brave, they were unreliable and not trained as well.
He put the veteran Carthaginians on the flanks with the best troops on the very outside.
Rome went straight for the center and put themselves into a double envelopment. As the Celts gave way, the Carthaginian flanks push in from the sides. The Roman legions were surrounded on three sides, with many of the troops stuck in a crush. Their cavalry was driven off and then they were completely surrounded.
70,000 Roman soldiers were killed in one day: the greatest loss of life in a single battle in a single day in the history of the world.
In 27 months, Rome lost 120,000 of their best young men.
After this loss, Rome changed a lot of laws to allow more men to join the military: freeing slaves, giving amnesty to criminals, getting rid of property owner requirement.
Fabius Maximus: Rome’s own unconventional leader. Desperate times promote people with different solutions.
Fabian tactics: delaying, harassing, not directly fighting. The anti-Roman approach, but it worked.
Scipio defeated Hannibal.
Carthaginians lost 2nd Punic War but they make a traumatic impact on Romans.
Cato the Elder: Carthage must be destroyed.
Rome became world power after knocking off Carthage.
Singular ability of Hannibal: How do I turn my greatest weakness into a strength?
In The Complete Roman Army, Goldsworthy writes an accessible and detailed account of the evolution of Roman arms, with plenty of visuals to help the general audience understand how things looked. In Roman Warfare, the Roman ethos over the development of their civilization is also effectively captured.
Both Polybius and Livy were historians under the Roman thumb, who were expected to write accounts that reflected well on Roman development. Their bias has to be taken into account, but they remain invaluable sources for the rise of Rome. Polybius in particular had a great influence on the subject of history and the idea that it should be a rational discussion of causes and effects. I can remember my first time reading him, while on a plane in 2002—excellent history, even translated and read out of context over 2000 years later!
Part 2 of a series on historical events that are widely overrated in aspects of their impact and yet actually underrated and deeply misunderstood. The Roman civilization is famous all over the world, but few people know just how unlikely and unique their rise to power was. Through an uncommon combination of ruthlessness and humility, Rome built a culture and a war machine that learned from mistakes, adapted to circumstances, and relentlessly pursued total victory.
Left to right: members of the hastati, velites, triarii, and principes
Enemies: the Macedonian phalanx
“Under the yoke” after the Battle of the Caudine Forks
Bust of Scipio Africanus
Show Notes
Roman rise included overthrowing kings, becoming a republic, elected consuls and even a Senate.
One of the incredible things about Romans was their ability to absorb defeat and learn from it.
They maintained a culture-wide focus on how to win.
They began their rise to power in Italy in the 400s and 300s BC.
Battle of Allia
The Celtic sack refines Roman warfare.
Ancient warfare used the Phalanx military formation and the goal was not to utterly annihilate opponents, just to get them to do what you wanted.
For more details on the original Phalanx warfare, check out my This is Sparta! episode
While the Phalanx was the custom in warfare, it was vulnerable from the sides and rear.
Alexander the Great and Philip the Second improved upon the Phalanx by making the spears longer and the formation deeper, as well as adding companion cavalry.
Samnites were a rival Italian group, from a hilly rocky land that made it hard keep the Phalanx together
Battle of the Caudine Forks 321 BC, a big defeat that figured deeply into the Roman sense of self.
“Under the Yolk”
Romans innovated warfare, creating Triplex Acies, three lines of soldiers: the Hastati, Principes, and Triarii
Romans got rid of the Phalanx pikes and invented the Gladius (short heavy sword) and pila (javelins)
This all eventually came to be called the Manipular Legion.
In The Complete Roman Army, Goldsworthy writes an accessible and detailed account of the evolution of Roman arms, with plenty of visuals to help the general audience understand how things looked. In Roman Warfare, the Roman ethos over the development of their civilization is also effectively captured.
Both Polybius and Livy were historians under the Roman thumb, who were expected to write accounts that reflected well on Roman development. Their bias has to be taken into account, but they remain invaluable sources for the rise of Rome. Polybius in particular had a great influence on the subject of history and the idea that it should be a rational discussion of causes and effects. I can remember my first time reading him, while on a plane in 2002—excellent history, even translated and read out of context over 2000 years later!
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